I am 52 years old, 192 cm long, 93 kg. Rick, I ski the Mythics in S Colorado and mounted them using the primary boot center line. —- Faulty (in another words: the one that twists to reverse camber/full rocker) is always on the left side. I have had three pairs of Mythic now, two pairs are faulty and one pair is fully working. The V2 range offer new MP3/Line Input with Dynamic EQ to enhance the playback. And IIRC the cores of that particular super light, super squirrelly ski consisted of resin impregnated corrugated cardboard. I have just taken delivery of some Mythics & Kingpins from Canada for our Australian season. Whatsoever, difference is dramatic to begin with. One pair I have mounted on the standard line, and, at 160# 5’11”, find they work very well for me as backcountry skis. Obviously skis bend and the camber will flatten over the life of a ski, but to change over hours? Less camber for warmer/softer snow and more camber in colder temperatures. They excel in powder, chop, crust, bumps, you name it. The situation in laptops is a little different. It has settled to 15-16mm camber (ski to ski). When I read XXX_er’s remarks, they sounded genuine and alive to me. I did enjoy the Hannibal but have to tip my hat to the Mythic. I felt that the ski is very capable and it felt fantastic in the right places (despite of camber problem I’m having). Hope you get sorted . Raid Team Black - Alternate Team Friday - 8:00 - 11:00 PST Saturday - 8:00 - 11:00 PST. We’ve had a lot of below 0 days in Montana this winter… and somewhere around 10-20 F, my skis reverse their camber as well. Any chance we can get a review/comparison on those skis too before the fall? For a non mid winter HR if you are a strong skier then the narrower white Mythic 87 would be probably better for the hard snow you will now get (and wider than most Swiss use), and 87 will only be significantly worse if you get deep, setting concrete type snow. I never got official explanation for this matter, but this has been changed for sure. More skiing is always better than less skiing. Regardless, it does it all including skiing switch like a champ at high speed on hard pack and in powder. I cannot remember the length but I think they were in the 190 range. The profile of the Svelte is a bit of a dichotomy. In a perfect world I like to have something both narrower and wider still to cover all of my bases. To be tourable I have limited my selection of ski’s to under 3000g / pair and for versatility a width between 88mm and 97mm. So far, so good. Losing a bunch of weight off your feet will be a revelation when going uphill, which is what you do most of the time in the BC. I guess my concern was if the camber reverses like JL said. RD Giant Coyote 215cm … etc etc …, lots of nostalgic memories, along with a few nightmares! To be candid, another and big reason for sticking with the Mythics is that I love their Contour skins. Lou. I also have some knee injury, so need a stable, forgiving ski. Lou. Please break trail for me. That’s 6 lb 3 ½ oz for us Americans. I have ordered the normal foils as well as the premium foils and i have to say the premium foils are heads and shoulders better than the normal foils. Not bad. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v3h31e7vtb0d1z/mythic_diff-3.jpg?dl=0, 4) different camber amount. Sounds nice! However, it’s possible that I just didn’t see the icing on the white areas. Clearly the brain trust at Dynastar concluded that this level of performance and the feather type of ski are to some degree mutually exclusive. I’m Tahoe-based skier, currently on BD Converts. Drilling the carbon isn’t any big deal, just be careful as with any non metallic ski not to apply so much pressure the drill depth stop eats into the topskin. Projected use: East Coast backcountry and possible Haute Route. Camber measured at the front boot centerline’s a tick under 14mm. Michael, Yep, I would be more than happy if it worked backwards! 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In deep/soft snow, I didn’t notice any difference between different cambers. Sweet boards indeed. Bob, After using them for only 3 days to teach my kids to ski (bad idea I know), they look like my 3 seasons old Volkls. Sounds like the Mythics have the same stiff tail I like on the Chams but lighter. This week on Limited Resources Marshall and Luis dive into Magic Core Set 2020 and cover every single rare and mythic rare for the big LR Set Review! If only someone would make me a boot to match. FWIW, the stiffer one weighs 1.2 oz more, and the serial numbers match. I am looking for a new ski as my primary touring ski for the alps. White resists icing better (on these skis). Felix. At first glance, the Mythics seems unremarkable in terms of cutting edge technology. At +1, on the Katana’s, to the tail is 78cm. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7orlfa2b8ija4cn/mythic_diff-1.jpg?dl=0, 2) Binding reinforcement laminate (metal sheet under binding area) is different shape. Thanks Jim! Inside +20°C (68°F) But it is there. So, they’re coming in a little heavy. I have two pairs (new and old) without bindings in my hands now and, in room temperatures, old pair measures 6mm base to base of camber (3mm per ski) and the last pair straight from Dynastar has 18mm of camber base to base (9mm per ski). I went for the most forward position on the 177cm and was very happy but might consider going back one or two cm on the 171cm to insure better flotation in soft backcountry snow due to the shorter tip. I hear ya, Jim. The pin tail provides the easy release of a rockered tail but has the solid platform of a flat tail- best of both worlds. I don’t know a ton about ski technology, but it sounds to me like these may be a bit more of an advanced ski. Yes, they can. Which leads me to the 177cm Mythic, with all of the above characteristics plus more rebound and energy. Primary mounting mark on the Mythics to the tail is 80.5cm. Thanks. (had to urban dictionary those words because i’m an old stoic german with no sense of irony, sarcasm or jest.) I’m 5’6″, 130lbs, and wondering if I can get away with the Mythic 171. I can confirm that older pair (“faulty”, 4.1 mm drill guide) 6mm or less (depending on temperature) camber lived throughout the whole season and the new pair (3,5mm drill guide) approx 14-15mm camber stayed stable. Being that this is a Core Set, we will be seeing more reprints than usual, and here is a big one. White is flexible with other colors while being able to stand on its own. They are satisfactory for me in the deep southern rockies snowpack of the Wolf Creek Pass region. Also, my pit crew is not dependable. I hope to have it in a 107 one day as well, but the 97 skis better then anything else in it’s class, and I am pretty sure I have probably skied on and or tested at least 70% percent of the skis in it’s class on the current market. Check out Evo. I am not a technical-type skier so have little to say about their niceties. My Vipec crampons are generously wide and can land on the opposite ski’s shovel with a long stride. That strikes me like a design flaw. I did. I got my latest pair straight from Dynastar and it has more camber than the previous ones. On the subject of obsessive ski inspection: I just received a pair of skis that looked good in terms of specs, etc. https://www.dropbox.com/s/atmmrbzmbeprh4m/inside.jpg?dl=0, Outside -5°C (23°F) Taking a rest day today. Reading your review, I think the Mythic could be the way to go. Fully working pair has around 15mm (skis together) of camber. It will take another four or five hundred years before Lou’s truck will understand his mind (and vice versa). J.L i am of to whistler tomorrow for a week and will be on the mythic for the first time , so will take some measurements and report back at the weekend , but i can’t believe this is normal and that it hasn’t been flagged up my other users if it was happening regularly , i would take them straight back to supplier asap. It left me begging for a 175cm. In that case, bring a ski that will allow you to maximize your enjoyment on those bigger lines which leads me back to the Mythic. Back to the MG 3, which is the cheapest car in the portfolio with a $15,990 drive-away price. I would definitely travel with these as a quiver of one. very curious to see if they twist like yours! Thank you!! That’s strange. That’s when I noticed that ski was twisted and was full rocker. I am pulling out the Olin Selkirks this very week…have as pair with a Tele setup that I am taking out for the first time in a decade. I’ve been thinking of mounting the second pair for resort use, and was wondering what the effect of going 2 cm behind the standard line would be. Oh, the Mythics skied fine in powder (no surprise), a condition missing from Bob’s review. Lou. As for Mythic, my take is that anyone trying to choose between it and the Cham for ski touring might as well go with Mythic, that is unless their “touring” involves a lot of cable riding and return routes that require doing things like frequently skiing down big European resorts, such as happens in Cham… in that case it’s a toss up? Again. I think I’m going to have a good shop do it this time. With skinning, I would say that more camber is slightly better, naturally. I will report what my feelings are with this “cambered” version of Mythic after I have skied properly with it. The early season snow I’m skiing on is not super light, but I do not expect a problem with the light stuff when it comes. The strength to weight ratio crushes anything else in it’s class. Lou, or anyone else, able to speak to what the mythics will look like for 2017/18? No surprises there. The new HM for this year gets similar qualities in it’s quiver due to the added slight turned up tail but keeping the pin tail that I personally have come to love. Mythic lays down the law, breaks it and makes no apologies. Only downside is they are double the price. Had untested goggles on Denali that didn’t work well, and our modified sleds broke, should have tested them more before trip. This is the other ski on my shortlist of three to match with the Shift MNC binding and Atomic XTD boots, for a 50/50 travel friendly quiver of one. I liked the cham hm 97 but since I was demoing bc skis at the resort they threw me on next years Legend that they got as a prerelease, and I can say that the new profile was impressive, just not sure it would be as impressive for a touring rig. I can also confirm that I have third pair and it works excactly the same as the 3mm camber ski does. In slopes it seems that more camber works slightly better. 4. Ive ordered from mythic black core several times and Im pretty happy with them overall. As for neil’s concern that Mythics require you to be a great technical skier, I’m not. @2020 - All Rights Reserved. Seems a nice option, is it worth the price if you decide to print your own design on makeplayingcard. On the advice of BD I used the Traxion cramps to fit ski waists 101mm – 115mm, and I regretted it. I don’t have enough experience to judge if that is a relevant difference, even at high altitude etc. Bob’s testers weigh 1422 grams per ski, 177 cm. I live in the eastern sierra where much of my skiing involves long tours culminating with a couloir, consisting of variable snow. Actually, I’m gonna see the tech today and possibly we will remove the binding (no inserts…) to test the ski flat and to figure out possible influence of the binding. Good incentive for one extra lap. I am in the fortunate position of having two (2) 171 cm mythics (long story). No one has asked me to send faulty pairs back so at the moment I have full rocker Mythic for deep pow days too. One very noteworthy aspect of the topsheet was by far the least amount of snow build up while ski touring, compared to all the skis I tested this spring. I also notice that the K2 has a little more body. Hi Bob. Mythic Update: They’ve been working well on thin snow cover in trees with lots of deadfall. And, I am an old guy, maybe even older than our host, His Blogness, if that is possible. There are a lot of good skis on the market these days, be it ski touring or alpine. Mythic sounds very attractive. Question is what should I do… if anything. It will let go of the turn with greater ease and you can slash and slurf huge floaty tail presses and it charges in the bumps. Emily, the Mythic and Cham 97 2.0 share the same profile and dimensions. I found the 97mm waist to be very versatile and perfect for spring touring in Colorado but despite the superb spring skiing we had this year, the only condition I never experienced on the Mythic was powder. I come from both an alpine and nordic racing background. Mounting each pair of bindings with inserts would allow you to switch back and forth. I have spent quite a lot time with this whole matter already and I don’t have a sure feeling anymore about what shape this ski _should_ be in the end. I like the 105mm for the one ski quiver but find it hard to be limited to just one ski. Another question: Any experience with breakable crust? This box includes four booster packs (1 Nix, 2 Born of the Gods and 1 Core 2015) @ $3 per booster to get 4 rares at least = using $12 of the $18. Just got the 2016 Mythic in 171 cm. After checking the flex a bunch of times, I began to think that one ski was significantly softer than the other. In other words, not the bad boy of the neighborhood like the Mythic. I will report how the camber version feels. The “camber” or space between, bottom to bottom, is small, maybe 3 mm. https://www.wildsnow.com/9657/ski-weight-comparison-surface/. Drill bit diameter difference (plus the laminate shape difference) possibly tells us the fact that binding reinforcement plate material might has been changed. Was one of my quiver setups back in the day. If you feel that ski is good, then it is good. I ski mostly soft snow in the San Juans near Wolf Creek Pass, but need to ski other snow sometimes. I am 5′ 11″, 160 lbs and have been skiing the cham 97 HM (“high mountain”, 97 HM lighter than 97) for several years now, both BC and in area. There are faulty pairs on the market (at least in Europe, possibly webshops are selling display pairs. I am hoping to take up ski touring in the near future (currently ski backcountry, but have no touring experience), and I am looking at purchasing the Mythic or Cham 97 2.0. But alas, as I discovered the nuances and subtleties of the Mythic, I was able to find all of the finesse I needed to get back to my old ways of not wasting any opportunity to make a turn. BTW, I’m guilty of the new gear syndrome. Best, Emily. I’m assuming you mean sandwich the skis, bottom to bottom facing each other, and measure the gap between them? Science speaks. Question: Is the 2800 g weight/pair for the 177 cm length? With a pit crew and lots of practice, we could get it down to less than one minute, for sure. I wasn’t really expecting any major problems. Surface sloughing was minimal. It is a very good ski, no matter what camber you have. Which one is wrong and which one is right? My first AT rig was a pair of Fischer Tour Lites (?) Reverse camber for soft snow. but it was a big purchase for me , hi emily , the camber should only be 2mm to the flat , therefore 3-4mm would be the correct gap between the two skis placed base to base . Straight endings on faulty one and arrow-shape endings on stable one for my intended use, but which none of the local shops I checked carried. I have several other skis too so I will ski hard whatever the Mythic camber is . Dunno.). And then left out in rack at lunch at -4′ mid mountain I was breaking trail much of the time, giving plenty of opportunity for the skis to collect snow on top. It has been a while since Baneslayer Angel was played in Standard, but I remember when it was Standard legal, and it definitely made a big impression. The black areas had some icing. Mythic with other RPGs Mythic's main strength is the ability to generate dynamic, unfolding adventures on the fly. (desperately waiting for the first snow..). I skied the faulty pair in (many) different type deep (deepest 60cm/24inch) snows in Pyrenees mountains last week and I have to say it worked very nicely, I have no idea if this was due to reverse faulty camber or not…. These skis are pretty expensive – even on sale!! Lou gets some more confirmation of his belief that black top sheets ice more than white. Word on the street is the Svelte is more damp than the original and wider Nano(I have never skied) which is always helpful with a particularly light ski. My style is more control than speed. In short, each 100g on the feet requires 1% more VO2. Steve, you might be interested to read this piece on the extra rate of O2 required by extra weight on the feet. I like to deal with local shops, but there’s no reseller for Mythic in Finland at all and Dynastar Finland distributor never bothered to reply my mails and questions about the ski in the beginning… As we see, my Mythic road has been a bit bumpy so far I ordered the ski early enough, with the best price I could get from Europe and paid with PayPal to have buyers protection. Frame of that binding is dead stable. I called Chouinard back and begged and pleaded for another pair of prototypes but they’d only built a 100 pair, no more to be had , sold the purple pair and moved on …. I actually hope that I didn’t notice this in the first place at all… I just happened to notice it under my feet and felt that ski was surprisingly unstable for camber ski on slopes – going flat while not carving. Grade: B. Good luck working that out with Dynastar. Has Dynastar fixed the miraculously changing camber problem? Rick, The Mythics have a 133mm shovel and a bit of early rise, which helps keep them on top of the snow. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Stand on them, drive them, ride them and they won’t let you down. Those things had the camber of a double camber touring ski, massive, with a pretty radical sidecut. I guess I should clarify that my two concerns were the possibility of these skis being too long and too stiff for me. One such example was the sale of the 1938 issue of Action Comics No 1, which marked Superman’s first appearance into the DC universe. At those dimensions I think I’ll be just fine going with the primary mounting mark on the Mythics. It’s snowing out as we speak so gone skiing. T he titular video game in Mythic Quest: Raven’s Banquet is a phenomenal success. Was able to get out and ski them on a number of slides in the Adirondack Park this season – could not have been happier. It was pretty cold during that day, around -15°C (5°F). Core Set 2021 Limited Set Review – Multicolor, Artifacts, and Lands Turbo Draft Guide for Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths – Crystals are Super Moxen Black once again brings its eternal entourage of nightmares along for the ride but, rather than just tearing you apart with their claws, they’ll be draining the life right out of you this set! The lack of weight vs. other skis of similar dimensions(94-95mm waist) is noticeable and translates into less energy used and less effort over the course of a day. I think less pronounced rocker would allow more of the edge to engage thus improving both edge hold and tracking. Neil & Bob, thank you very much for your observations about the chamber. This is not to say the Wayback or Hannibal are slouches by any means, just a bit different performance profile. I’m headed out now to go pickup the pair of BMT 94 176 Demo skis to take ’em for a spin this afternoon – I’ll *report* back later. – Looking for a “freetouring” ski that I can use both for touring and lift-assisted freeriding MTG Core Set 2020 best (and worst) White Limited review. Mostly due to the shear amount of options you are given for art styles and foiling. (yes, i am naive. agree your best option is to deal with dynastar direct . My friends have checked them out as well and agree. I generally don’t buy high end/price skis so if I get a pair that doesn’t work for me, I just chalk it up to experience, and pass them along to some one who may like them better. So what's on the back? Thanks, Bob. The reference size for the Mythic is 177 cm. I am thinking of buying the Mythic, or the K2 coomback. Then I switched boots from the Sportiva Siderals to Atomic Backland Carbon Lights, which have a much shorter sole. Thank you Jim – great points of reference on the two different boots ! It’s way more playful and versatile then the old HM from last year due to the turned up tail. I reached out to Dynastar and got a prompt response back from an “after service manager.” His take is that many skis change camber slightly based differential contraction across the ski lay up and that the Mythic exhibits this more so than others. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pncjr4vrsph1z5e/mythic_diff-4.jpg?dl=0. It’s my fifth ski with Rottefella Freedom and no such problems before. you mentioned control , and i feel i am the boss of the mythic not the other way round , Apparently the Mythic is a real winner. You indeed need a well rounded ski for Haute Route as you never know what you’ll get and you could get everything from powder to blue ice. Please let us know a few things about yourselves! Faulty pair has only about 5mm of camber (skis together) in room temperatures which twists into reverse camber in winter temperatures. Was also considering the Nano Svelte, but they are pricey and I’m guessing not as well-rounded a ski as the Mythic. Felix, since you want to go fast and probably aren’t spending much time in the trees, you’ll probably be happier with the longer 177 cm length. For the two breakable conditions I had to moderate speed, and then things were okay. I am currently using a 97mm cramp on a 96mm ski, and it is perfect. If we can do it, so can you. Meanwhile, binding mount inserts are frequently worth the effort and expense. Hopefully this isn’t turning into infinite and painful process. Does anyone have personal experience with the change, if any? It seems AT touring skis are always trying to find that perfect balance between weight and performance. https://www.dropbox.com/s/bdpob8a0gt89c4l/outside.jpg?dl=0. Thanks for the Mythic update Lou, I’ve not mounted mine yet but probably will in the next day or two. Thanks for the review, I’m looking forward to checking these out. As I mentioned I wished Volkl would’ve made these in the 180ish range instead of the 10cm jump from 176 to 186. Rick, that might be a consideration for you with the 184cm Mythic given your experience with the V Werks. XXX_er, when you grow up in later years, you’ll cringe to remember that sort of attitude. There’s no official info anywhere. Thus, skis of “mythic” proportions don’t come along every day — but the new Dynastar Mythic reaches those storied heights. 16.9k Followers, 795 Following, 2,399 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from MTG Black Core (@mtgblackcore) Meanwhile also the Black Crows Camox Freebird and Kästle TX97 were two options I looked at. Flaw is in the ski indeed. hi jim , thanks for the info , although 170lbs now aim to be 10lbs lighter by the time i get to ski this season so think the 171’s are the length for me as i like lots of turns and never get to mach speeds !! Hi Lou, thanks. You could crank the tightest turns you could imagine then seemingly put turns inside of those turns. Lou. They stay up without special attention, are quick to turn and lively. Atomic Super G 223cm It seems that it will take some time… I really need to know that is the ski like that or is my pair f***d up…, Here are the pics (hopefully the links go through..): Here is the Lenovo Legion Y740 configuration sent to TechRadar for review: CPU: 2.20GHz Intel Core i7-8750H (hexa-core, 9MB cache, up to 4.10GHz) … Does anyone have any idea how Mythic 2016 skis doing telemark? Best Intel processor: Core i3 vs i5 vs i7 vs i9 in a laptop. I”m thinking of purchasing a pair of Mythics. I’d appreciate any thoughts you or other owners might have. I was eyeing the women’s Cham 97 2.0, after hearing many wonderful things about them, BUT I’ve been touring on some very heavy loaner skis this season (total setup 21+ lbs!) Top sheet color should not be near the top of the list when choosing skis. I tried scraping one ski’s top sheet, but not the other. Hey all, I’ve been out on the Mythics a bit in conditions that vary from hard piste to slushy powder in the trees. I did the same with my 177cm Mythic and they engage into the turn much better and track better considering my smaller stature relative to the longer length. How doeas Mythic ski for it’s given length? In short, for out here they rock. As a public service today, I violated my solemn oath not to ride ski lifts. It might be one helluva lucky flaw that makes the ski as it is. We’re talking75% BC, 25% in-bounds. And it's $5 each. I definitely remember the Selkirk. ( and we haven’t even mentioned boots!). Hi Bob, my robot filters held up your comment, have no idea why, sorry about that. Greater even! Rather it rolls with the punches, smooths out any issues, plays nice and won’t get you into any trouble. anyhow just off to airport to begin trek to BC , and will report back on friday eve after first turns on the mythic, Thanks for your replies Neil. A place for discussion of a popular collectible card game without the permission or approval of Wizards of the Coast or Hasbro. They can go from untracked to heavily tracked snow, barely noticing the change. It’s not really much heavier in the greater scheme of life, and unless you’re going self-guided on Haute R. and moving quickly, a few extra grams are not going to be an issue. Lou. But given the need to ski tight trees from time to time, that’s the length I need. Goto [ Index] In Short Mythic Russia presents the wonder of 14th Century Russia, from mythical animals and gods to real Russian history, in glorious fashion. I don’t know what to say about this. Hi Fred, I’m sorry to say I have not skied on any of the Black Crow skis. I’m currently *trying* to get myself psyched on burying myself in my taxes, and with the new weather system rolling into the Kenai Mtns now’s a good a time as any . They are good enough that I’ve stopped using the Manaslus. Lately I’ve been feeling they ski a bit “dead” and guess the camber has something to do with this. Strange to see. Great thoughts and dialogue on this ski here. Still undecided on the mounting point but may very well go +1 as I have on my Katana’s. face.”. The caveat with the 94 is the jump from 176 to 186 with both of those measuring pretty true – wish they built that ski in the 180/84 range. What is more important, a ski’s numbers or how it skis? What would you suggest here? So I’ve skied my Mythics all winter and I’m confident that I have a faulty pair. You mentioned that the Mythic is superior to the Kästle so that one is out for me. I mounted mine on the furthest back line. Other posts have been complimentary for what seem to be the same “faulty” skis. 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